Lia is now a Vivid contract girl

FTVGirls_Rob · 08-12-2009, 03:47 PM

Unfortunately I only found out about this last week, and she even told me she wasn't doing hardcore, according to that announcement, she is doing hardcore?

MrSnook · 08-12-2009, 05:45 PM

Does she have a name picked out? I have to think there are a few Lia's out there already.

geolarson2 · 08-12-2009, 06:45 PM

I think that's a good for her. I seem to recall her mentioning weighing options either here or maybe in an interview before. If this is where her heart and head tell her to go, so be it. Whether with Ms Alison's retirement and pursuit of a fresh start and new career, or Ms Danielle's balancing her site with her education, family and friends, or with Ms Lia's decision to move to Vivid and, I guess, hardcore, they all have my respect. Paz & cheers to you, Ms Lia, and, much as I hate putting it like this, break a leg!

dave · 08-12-2009, 07:12 PM

Does anyone know when Lia is going to appear on VIVID.COM and under what name or is going to continue to use her FTV name, all the best to Lia a brave decision to move to Hardcore cant wait

YetAnotherDave · 08-12-2009, 09:20 PM

Following the link in Rob's original post all I can say is that "Man they get vicious on those forums" and what'sall this about 2003 or is that an indelicate question?

All I will say is good luck and hopefully we'll get kept posted.

Anoree · 08-12-2009, 10:20 PM

Wow, that is a big surprise, at least for me. I never would have guessed she'd go that route.
But as I wrote in the "Lia?" thread, I wish Lia all the best with her new career.
I also hope she'll stay (in touch) with us.

FTVfanatic · 08-15-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FTVGirls_Rob

Unfortunately I only found out about this last week, and she even told me she wasn't doing hardcore...

If that's true I'm sad to see she wasn't totally upfront and honest after all the years with FTV.

I mean, if you're jumping the ship to Vivid and starting to do hardcore why on earth try to hide the "little" detail of doing hardcore? After the (above quoted) press release it's not a secret anymore to anyone.

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One hour later:

Reading the press release again it seems like no real credit is given to Rob's undeniable talent. It's all about Lia, her web presence and "the brand" she has created out of herself. I understand the press release is all about Lia and Vivid, but I still wanted to remind how it actually happened:

I personally think her brand (if you can call Lia a brand) has been built by Rob to a very large extent. We all know the work ethics and standards he has, and the meticuosly controlled quality at FTV. Of course Lia has worked hard as a model and with her own site, and she has assisted Rob for many years. She has a great personality and has been interacting with her members a lot when she was still active at her site. But her success and brand does not solely come from herself. She doesn't exist in vacuum. It's Rob that made her (and us, former members of her website). And for that, I'd like to thank you Rob. You gave Lia wings to fly.

With her own wings now she can do whatever she chooses to do. I'm a long-time fan of Lia, and will remain that way. I wish you, Lia, all the best with your future career. Go on girl! Fly high!

DWM222 · 08-15-2009, 11:59 PM

Wow..I guess I have been out of the loop..color me very "Surprised"

Well...I guess, for what its worth..."Good luck with your new mission Lia"

rickaz · 08-16-2009, 02:54 PM

WOW

first time i was a member at ftv and i would see rob 's work it was clean and
done in good taste. Lia it's going to be your down fall. Sorry but if you look
at all the hardcore junk out there,you will see that the girls that are at first really happy and then they start to alittle this and alittle that, next thing you know your all wash up and they will throw you under the bus.

Lia i'm ready sorry your going to do this. i hope went you find out the mistake you made, that your real fans are still there.

ROB PLEASE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, YOU HAVE A GREAT SITE.
It's the reason i keep signing up for your site.
i'll cancel my subscripton to lia site TODAY.

Anoree · 08-16-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rickaz

Lia it's going to be your down fall.
[...]
i hope went you find out the mistake you made, that your real fans are still there.

[...]
i'll cancel my subscripton to lia site TODAY.

While many pornstars, especially the young newcomers, go to the dogs in this business easily, I do think strong women CAN survive it.
I believe Lia IS such a strong woman and thought about this step thoroughly. She's old enough do know when to say "No!" and I'm sure she has her share of contacts who tell her about the Dos and Don'ts. I'm pretty sure she was able to put some of her own conditions into the contract she made with Vivid, including the room to continue her own website.

I'll let my subscription to Lia's site run for at least a while. I still haven't seen all of her updates. (That may take another year or so, at my current rate of watching.

)

FTVfanatic · 08-17-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Anoree

...I'll let my subscription to Lia's site run for at least a while. I still haven't seen all of her updates. (That may take another year or so, at my current rate of watching.

)

That's amazing. There has been just a couple updates during past 8 months at Lia's site, and You're still subscribing to it. You're a true fan!

If everyone was like you the economy would never slow down. You know: "Say no to recession. Subscribe to all FTV sites."

Anoree · 08-17-2009, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FTVfanatic

That's amazing. There has been just a couple updates during past 8 months at Lia's site, and You're still subscribing to it. You're a true fan!

If everyone was like you the economy would never slow down. You know: "Say no to recession. Subscribe to all FTV sites."

See, and I'm serious about letting my subscription to Danielle's site run untill it closes down.

Lia's content I probably should start downloading and saving for future viewing and cancel my subscription if Lia doesn't put any new content on anymore. I hope she does, though. I'm a member of Lia's site from just last fall, and it still has tons of stuff I haven't seen yet.

FTVfanatic · 08-16-2009, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickaz

...Lia it's going to be your down fall.

Maybe she will prove you wrong. Maybe.

CK1 · 08-16-2009, 06:00 PM

Lia is not an 18 year old girl breaking into the business for the first time. she has been around and has seen the business from the inside for a long time. so if anyone can make it work it is her.

Natal · 08-16-2009, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickaz

Sorry but if you look
at all the hardcore junk out there,you will see that the girls that are at first really happy and then they start to alittle this and alittle that, next thing you know your all wash up and they will throw you under the bus.

The problem with those girls is that they start really young and typically they have some underlying serious mental/emotional issues. I think at first they put on a cheery facade to gloss over their pain but as they get older their underlying issues overwhelm them. Being in porn doesn't help, but in most cases its likely not the root cause for them becoming trainwrecks. It would have happened anyway, it just becomes being more public as a result of being in porn.

I remember reading a speech that Nina Hartley once gave (and I think she would have a good take on this) where she said that from her observation for some women, being in porn was an empowering experience, but for most it was personally devastating. She said that she allways advised young girls who were thinking about getting into the business to wait until they were about 25, then decide. At that point they would still be young, but emotionally mature enough to go into it with their eyes open. I doubt Lia was following Nina's advice (or was even aware of it), but if she was going to do hardcore, she appears to have gone about it in the right way.

TheDoctor · 08-16-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CK1

Lia is not an 18 year old girl breaking into the business for the first time. she has been around and has seen the business from the inside for a long time. so if anyone can make it work it is her.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natal

The problem with those girls is that they start really young and typically they have some underlying serious mental/emotional issues. I think at first they put on a cheery facade to gloss over their pain but as they get older their underlying issues overwhelm them. Being in porn doesn't help, but in most cases its likely not the root cause for them becoming trainwrecks. It would have happened anyway, it just becomes being more public as a result of being in porn.

I remember reading a speech that Nina Hartley once gave (and I think she would have a good take on this) where she said that from her observation for some women, being in porn was an empowering experience, but for most it was personally devastating. She said that she allways advised young girls who were thinking about getting into the business to wait until they were about 25, then decide. At that point they would still be young, but emotionally mature enough to go into it with their eyes open. I doubt Lia was following Nina's advice (or was even aware of it), but if she was going to do hardcore, she appears to have gone about it in the right way.

Boys, you HAVE TO BE RIGHT about Lia's harcore decision... if just for her sake.

rickaz · 08-17-2009, 01:02 AM

ok, some ftv girls have done hardcore.

BUT, they come to ftv to get a shoot, and rob puts all his work into it and they just leave. maybe it's because they can't get work or is it they were trying to pick and chose what they wanted to do,in the hardcore business.

again, i'm sorry to see this happen.
very hard business to be in ( hardcore ).
you know Rob, just keep looking for other girls like
Cari Banks, Allison,

08-12-2009, 03:47 PM	#1
FTVGirls_Rob Administrator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,209	Unfortunately I only found out about this last week, and she even told me she wasn't doing hardcore, according to that announcement, she is doing hardcore? __________________ http://www.ftvgirls.com

08-12-2009, 07:12 PM	#4
dave Dreaming of Danielle Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 61	Does anyone know when Lia is going to appear on VIVID.COM and under what name or is going to continue to use her FTV name, all the best to Lia a brave decision to move to Hardcore cant wait __________________ Subaru Dave

08-12-2009, 09:20 PM	#5
YetAnotherDave Danielle's Biggest Fan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 393	Following the link in Rob's original post all I can say is that "Man they get vicious on those forums" and what'sall this about 2003 or is that an indelicate question? All I will say is good luck and hopefully we'll get kept posted. __________________ Just call me Y A D, it's shorter - and none of the YetAnotherDave's on Google is me !!

08-15-2009, 11:59 PM	#8
DWM222 Danielle's Biggest Fan Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 478	Wow..I guess I have been out of the loop..color me very "Surprised" Well...I guess, for what its worth..."Good luck with your new mission Lia" __________________ Have I ever lied to you....That you know of?

08-16-2009, 06:00 PM	#14
CK1 Danielle's Biggest Fan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Near Orlando, Fl Posts: 468	Lia is not an 18 year old girl breaking into the business for the first time. she has been around and has seen the business from the inside for a long time. so if anyone can make it work it is her. __________________ Once a king, always a king Once a knight is never enough

08-12-2009, 06:45 PM	#3
geolarson2 Danielle's Imaginary Boyfriend Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 512	I think that's a good for her. I seem to recall her mentioning weighing options either here or maybe in an interview before. If this is where her heart and head tell her to go, so be it. Whether with Ms Alison's retirement and pursuit of a fresh start and new career, or Ms Danielle's balancing her site with her education, family and friends, or with Ms Lia's decision to move to Vivid and, I guess, hardcore, they all have my respect. Paz & cheers to you, Ms Lia, and, much as I hate putting it like this, break a leg!

08-12-2009, 10:20 PM	#6
Anoree Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,015	Wow, that is a big surprise, at least for me. I never would have guessed she'd go that route. But as I wrote in the "Lia?" thread, I wish Lia all the best with her new career. I also hope she'll stay (in touch) with us.

08-16-2009, 02:54 PM	#9
rickaz Danielle Fan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Phoenix,Az Posts: 17	WOW first time i was a member at ftv and i would see rob 's work it was clean and done in good taste. Lia it's going to be your down fall. Sorry but if you look at all the hardcore junk out there,you will see that the girls that are at first really happy and then they start to alittle this and alittle that, next thing you know your all wash up and they will throw you under the bus. Lia i'm ready sorry your going to do this. i hope went you find out the mistake you made, that your real fans are still there. ROB PLEASE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, YOU HAVE A GREAT SITE. It's the reason i keep signing up for your site. i'll cancel my subscripton to lia site TODAY.

08-17-2009, 01:02 AM	#17
rickaz Danielle Fan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Phoenix,Az Posts: 17	ok, some ftv girls have done hardcore. BUT, they come to ftv to get a shoot, and rob puts all his work into it and they just leave. maybe it's because they can't get work or is it they were trying to pick and chose what they wanted to do,in the hardcore business. again, i'm sorry to see this happen. very hard business to be in ( hardcore ). you know Rob, just keep looking for other girls like Cari Banks, Allison,