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Old 08-16-2009, 02:54 PM   #1
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WOW
first time i was a member at ftv and i would see rob 's work it was clean and
done in good taste. Lia it's going to be your down fall. Sorry but if you look
at all the hardcore junk out there,you will see that the girls that are at first really happy and then they start to alittle this and alittle that, next thing you know your all wash up and they will throw you under the bus.
Lia i'm ready sorry your going to do this. i hope went you find out the mistake you made, that your real fans are still there.

ROB PLEASE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, YOU HAVE A GREAT SITE.
It's the reason i keep signing up for your site.
i'll cancel my subscripton to lia site TODAY.
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Old 08-16-2009, 04:04 PM   #2
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Lia it's going to be your down fall.
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i hope went you find out the mistake you made, that your real fans are still there.

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i'll cancel my subscripton to lia site TODAY.
While many pornstars, especially the young newcomers, go to the dogs in this business easily, I do think strong women CAN survive it.
I believe Lia IS such a strong woman and thought about this step thoroughly. She's old enough do know when to say "No!" and I'm sure she has her share of contacts who tell her about the Dos and Don'ts. I'm pretty sure she was able to put some of her own conditions into the contract she made with Vivid, including the room to continue her own website.

I'll let my subscription to Lia's site run for at least a while. I still haven't seen all of her updates. (That may take another year or so, at my current rate of watching. )

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Old 08-17-2009, 10:01 PM   #3
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...I'll let my subscription to Lia's site run for at least a while. I still haven't seen all of her updates. (That may take another year or so, at my current rate of watching. )
That's amazing. There has been just a couple updates during past 8 months at Lia's site, and You're still subscribing to it. You're a true fan!

If everyone was like you the economy would never slow down. You know: "Say no to recession. Subscribe to all FTV sites."
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:34 PM   #4
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That's amazing. There has been just a couple updates during past 8 months at Lia's site, and You're still subscribing to it. You're a true fan!

If everyone was like you the economy would never slow down. You know: "Say no to recession. Subscribe to all FTV sites."
See, and I'm serious about letting my subscription to Danielle's site run untill it closes down.

Lia's content I probably should start downloading and saving for future viewing and cancel my subscription if Lia doesn't put any new content on anymore. I hope she does, though. I'm a member of Lia's site from just last fall, and it still has tons of stuff I haven't seen yet.

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Old 08-18-2009, 04:55 AM   #5
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I'll be modifying Lia's members' area a bit -- I'll be re-organizing the coverpages so that the go in chronological order -- ie. the oldest stuff on top, newest on bottom. So people who are new to the site will see her beginnings first.
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Old 08-18-2009, 07:53 AM   #6
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I'll be modifying Lia's members' area a bit -- I'll be re-organizing the coverpages so that the go in chronological order...
That's a great idea. When I was still a member at Lia's site I was wondering why the updates had been disorganized. I mean, they are not in cronological order. I think the updates at Alison's site (as compared to Lia's) are better organized.
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:14 PM   #7
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I just logged on to Alison's site and realized that Rob has already done the above mentioned change there: updates are now organized in cronological order so that the first updates are first, and the latest (last) updates at the bottom of the page. So, it's reversed to what it used to be. However, I think it works well.

If you do the same at Lia's site, I think it will be pretty good too. I'm not a member of Lia's currently so I have no way of knowing when it will be re-organized or if it already has been...
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:34 PM   #8
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I'll be modifying Lia's members' area a bit...
Aside for this are there any other plans for the site or is it pretty much like AA's now?
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...Lia it's going to be your down fall.
Maybe she will prove you wrong. Maybe.
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Old 08-16-2009, 06:00 PM   #10
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Lia is not an 18 year old girl breaking into the business for the first time. she has been around and has seen the business from the inside for a long time. so if anyone can make it work it is her.
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Sorry but if you look
at all the hardcore junk out there,you will see that the girls that are at first really happy and then they start to alittle this and alittle that, next thing you know your all wash up and they will throw you under the bus.
The problem with those girls is that they start really young and typically they have some underlying serious mental/emotional issues. I think at first they put on a cheery facade to gloss over their pain but as they get older their underlying issues overwhelm them. Being in porn doesn't help, but in most cases its likely not the root cause for them becoming trainwrecks. It would have happened anyway, it just becomes being more public as a result of being in porn.

I remember reading a speech that Nina Hartley once gave (and I think she would have a good take on this) where she said that from her observation for some women, being in porn was an empowering experience, but for most it was personally devastating. She said that she allways advised young girls who were thinking about getting into the business to wait until they were about 25, then decide. At that point they would still be young, but emotionally mature enough to go into it with their eyes open. I doubt Lia was following Nina's advice (or was even aware of it), but if she was going to do hardcore, she appears to have gone about it in the right way.
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Old 08-16-2009, 07:29 PM   #12
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Lia is not an 18 year old girl breaking into the business for the first time. she has been around and has seen the business from the inside for a long time. so if anyone can make it work it is her.

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The problem with those girls is that they start really young and typically they have some underlying serious mental/emotional issues. I think at first they put on a cheery facade to gloss over their pain but as they get older their underlying issues overwhelm them. Being in porn doesn't help, but in most cases its likely not the root cause for them becoming trainwrecks. It would have happened anyway, it just becomes being more public as a result of being in porn.

I remember reading a speech that Nina Hartley once gave (and I think she would have a good take on this) where she said that from her observation for some women, being in porn was an empowering experience, but for most it was personally devastating. She said that she allways advised young girls who were thinking about getting into the business to wait until they were about 25, then decide. At that point they would still be young, but emotionally mature enough to go into it with their eyes open. I doubt Lia was following Nina's advice (or was even aware of it), but if she was going to do hardcore, she appears to have gone about it in the right way.
Boys, you HAVE TO BE RIGHT about Lia's harcore decision... if just for her sake.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:02 AM   #13
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ok, some ftv girls have done hardcore.

BUT, they come to ftv to get a shoot, and rob puts all his work into it and they just leave. maybe it's because they can't get work or is it they were trying to pick and chose what they wanted to do,in the hardcore business.

again, i'm sorry to see this happen.
very hard business to be in ( hardcore ).
you know Rob, just keep looking for other girls like
Cari Banks, Allison,
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