Laranger in hospital

tigger · 07-07-2010, 01:43 AM

I spoke with Laranger the other day and he was sick, I just got a e-mail from his son today saying he had to be taken to the hospital short of breath. that is all I know for now I will update as soon as i know more.

captnjack · 07-07-2010, 08:17 AM

Get well soon Laranger!!!

Anoree · 07-07-2010, 12:25 PM

I hope Laranger is up and out of the hospital soon.

e83sOHpFYv · 07-07-2010, 04:25 PM

Get well soon!!!!

All The Best, e83

T-bone Thomas · 07-07-2010, 07:24 PM

Get well soon Laranger.

YetAnotherDave · 07-07-2010, 07:28 PM

Get well soon laranger.

DWM222 · 07-07-2010, 07:37 PM

From one old Colorado guy to another..Hope you get well soon laranger

danielle_ftv · 07-07-2010, 07:46 PM

Aww...I hope it's nothing serious. Sending out good thoughts and wishes to Laranger. I hope he gets well soon.

tigger · 07-07-2010, 07:57 PM

I just checked my e-mail and no news yet. all i know is he got up in the morning and couldn't breath so he called 911 and they admitted him after 5 hours in the ER. When i spoke to him on the phone a few days ago he sounded relay bad like he hada bad cold. If i hear any thing i will let ya all know. His son did say he was sitting up eating cold hospital food the night he had to go in so hopefully he will be good as new in no time.

mart · 07-07-2010, 08:44 PM

So sorry hear about Laranger Tigger, hoping you get well soon Laranger!,thinking of yer mate!

TheDoctor · 07-07-2010, 09:57 PM

Get well soon, laranger. This forum is already missing its resident ban-happy-deadpan-snarky-no-BS administrator...

tigger · 07-07-2010, 11:21 PM

Missy used her pull and got me Larangers room phone number so i gave him a call, he sounds bad, he has got in his words crud in his lungs. they have him on breathing treatments, its helping but it is a slow prosess. My phone went dead when i was talking to him so ill try to give him a call later.

Immortal · 07-07-2010, 11:33 PM

So sorry to hear Laranger is in the hospital,

Hope you get well soon. We need you here.

Raymond · 07-08-2010, 12:09 AM

Damn, I hope he gets better soon.

grande351 · 07-08-2010, 12:47 AM

My best wishes to Laranger for a speedy recovery!

Thank you for keeping us up to date on his condition Tigger.

ugo · 07-08-2010, 06:26 AM

Get well soon Laranger

captnjack · 07-08-2010, 08:27 AM

thanks for the update tigger

tigger · 07-08-2010, 11:03 PM

Spoke with Laranger a while ago he is doing better he will be comming home in the morning. He sounded a lot better when i spoke with him.

eastbill · 07-09-2010, 01:30 AM

Laranger.. hope you are up to speed soon.

Enigma · 07-09-2010, 01:50 AM

Get well soon pal so you can come back an ban me

lol

grande351 · 07-09-2010, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tigger

Spoke with Laranger a while ago he is doing better he will be comming home in the morning. He sounded a lot better when i spoke with him.

Thanks for the update, Tigger. Glad to hear he's going home!

geolarson2 · 07-09-2010, 05:08 PM

Glad to hear Laranger's on the mend & on the way home (sweet home!).

mart · 07-09-2010, 06:13 PM

Sounds good Tigger, i knew Laranger was a tough ol boot!. He'll be back on his feet in no time.

TheDoctor · 07-09-2010, 11:23 PM

YEESSSAH! I KNEW it! The Grim Reaper FLEES "LA Ranger" in fear!

laranger · 07-09-2010, 11:53 PM

Man it's good to be back home and get on here to visit with ol' friends, thanks everyone.

Max · 07-10-2010, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by laranger

Man it's good to be back home and get on here to visit with ol' friends, thanks everyone.

The hospital is not a fun place to be. I passed a kidney stone there and it was a rip off. People will have to do flips to pay medical bills before you know it.

mart · 07-10-2010, 06:43 PM

Good to have you back my friend!.

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Originally Posted by laranger

Man it's good to be back home and get on here to visit with ol' friends, thanks everyone.

Max can you please explain what you mean by a rip-off to pay medical bills please?.
In the UK we have the NHS "National Health Service" which means our taxes we pay through our wages pay for our medical bills.

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Originally Posted by Max

The hospital is not a fun place to be. I passed a kidney stone there and it was a rip off. People will have to do flips to pay medical bills before you know it.

Max · 07-10-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mart

Good to have you back my friend!.

Max can you please explain what you mean by a rip-off to pay medical bills please?.
In the UK we have the NHS "National Health Service" which means our taxes we pay through our wages pay for our medical bills.

in other words you basically can't come out of the hospital for less than $3,000. An average ambulance ride costs over $800, so most people have to drive themselves to the hospital. The reason that they can make them so expensive is because if you don't pay them, you die. That is one reason that health care reform is such a big topic in America today.

tigger · 07-10-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Max

in other words you basically can't come out of the hospital for less than $3,000. An average ambulance ride costs over $800, so most people have to drive themselves to the hospital. The reason that they can make them so expensive is because if you don't pay them, you die. That is one reason that health care reform is such a big topic in America today.

If you go to the hospital they have to treat you money or no money they cant refuse to treat you.

captnjack · 07-10-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tigger

If you go to the hospital they have to treat you money or no money they cant refuse to treat you.

I wish that were true tigger but I am afraid that you are in for a rude awaking on day. Also the insurance you have determines to a large degree the level of care you get. We are not talking about the VA.

tigger · 07-10-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by captnjack

I wish that were true tigger but I am afraid that you are in for a rude awaking on day. Also the insurance you have determines to a large degree the level of care you get. We are not talking about the VA.

I'm not wrong if you go into the hospital they have to treat you that is the law!!!! It's the right to care law. it is posted in every ER in every hospital in the US. they can not refuse to treat you.
It is the EMTALA Law if you care to look it up. When I became a Paramedic i had to read and sign this law to get my license, if I refuse to treat some one or give them transport to the hospital I lose my license and pay a fine and could spend 25 yrs in jail. If the hospital has the means to treat you they must treat you , if they do not have the means they must transport you to a hospital that can.

mart · 07-11-2010, 07:38 PM

Are there such things as free hospitals in American for the not so well off?. I'm sure as there is here, as the poorer groups of people, who just wouldn't be able to afford medical bills.

tigger · 07-11-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mart

Are there such things as free hospitals in American for the not so well off?. I'm sure as there is here, as the poorer groups of people, who just wouldn't be able to afford medical bills.

Large citys have some free clinic that people can go to but going to a hospital your going to be charged a bill.

geolarson2 · 07-12-2010, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tigger

I'm not wrong if you go into the hospital they have to treat you that is the law!!!! It's the right to care law. it is posted in every ER in every hospital in the US. they can not refuse to treat you.
It is the EMTALA Law if you care to look it up. When I became a Paramedic i had to read and sign this law to get my license, if I refuse to treat some one or give them transport to the hospital I lose my license and pay a fine and could spend 25 yrs in jail. If the hospital has the means to treat you they must treat you , if they do not have the means they must transport you to a hospital that can.

You're right, of course. The problem then becomes an issue of whether you can/cannot pay afterward (sometimes you can haggle with the billing department, sometimes, sometimes they'll work on a sliding scale & sometimes you can't work things out and they send you to collections). EMTALA was passed in 1986 (signed into law by Reagan as part of COBRA) and applies to any hospital that accepts HHS, MediCare & MedicAid (exemptions for the VA, Shriners & Indian Health). It only applied to emergency services, of course, and if a hospital doesn't take MediCare, MedicAid, or HHS payments, they're exempted too. Before EMTALA it was, from what I understand, permissible for a hospital's administration or an ambulance company to deny even emergency treatment, so in a way Captnjack had a point, too. And because EMTALA was buried in the COBRA legislation it isn't well known. When & where a physician says a patient is stable though, EMTALA ends, even if the patient isn't released from the hospital.

The US has nothing like NHS or HealthCanada, Mart, let alone systems like they have in Germany, France, the Nederlands or Scandinavia. The closest we have is MedicAid which is really only for the poorest and that is hard to get, usually requiring a couple years pursuing coverage before winding up before an administrative law judge (same with Social Security disability insurance). Through our health care debacle last year, I was regularly corresponding with friends & family in London & Ottawa about their systems. My cousin in London, a Tory, is more inclined to see NHS expanded than reduced, and my friend in Ottawa (Labour) would prefer kinks worked out with the way HealthCanada operates, but she's happy to have it, especially since she gave birth just a few weeks ago to her second child.

As for the clinics, I know San Francisco has had free clinics since at least the 60s, I think LA likewise. I'm not sure about most of the rest of the country, but imagine Tigger's right, that they are out there. But I live in Reno and am unaware of any free clinics hereabouts. We do have a VA hospital though which I've heard good things about.

But back to the original point, Tigger's right they can't refuse to treat you, but even if you're poor, they're going to try and collect by hook or by crook afterward. Its funny, but I knew this person who treated veterans who went to Kazakhstan for a conference to discuss treating PTSD and her experience w/ Vietnam Vets and psych counselors in the USSR treating Afghani vets broke her ankle and was treated immediately, no charge.

Its a side note, but folks outside the US might find it interesting to note that maternity leave has only been guaranteed in the US since 1993, and that for 12 weeks unpaid, while in Canada women receive approx. 55% pay for up to 50 weeks; Mexico requires 100% pay for 12 weeks; the UK has a complicated system that lasts up to 52 weeks at 90% pay; Russia has a sliding scale system that lasts up to 18 months & 50% & up to 100% pay; Germany offers up to 14 weeks at something like 67-84% pay; Italy offers up to 22 weeks at 34% pay, if I understand things right (part of this came from a National Geographic table that simplified things a bit, so there may be some flux there I'm unaware of)

My own opinion on the whole thing I'll keep to myself rather turn this into a political, economic or moral debate. I'm just happy your ok, Laranger. Reast easy & welcome home!

captnjack · 07-12-2010, 05:10 AM

Sorry tigger I did misunderstand your post. You are correct. What I should have said is...if the condition is non life threatening and you are uninsured the hospital will require you to make arrangements for payment of services before you are treated.

mart · 07-12-2010, 07:38 PM

Thanks Geo, found your post interesting.

Raymond · 07-12-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by laranger

Man it's good to be back home and get on here to visit with ol' friends, thanks everyone.

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07-07-2010, 01:43 AM	#1
tigger Danielle's Future Ex-Husband Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: out yonder way! Posts: 1,093	Laranger in hospital I spoke with Laranger the other day and he was sick, I just got a e-mail from his son today saying he had to be taken to the hospital short of breath. that is all I know for now I will update as soon as i know more. __________________ IF YOU SEE ME RUNNING YOU BETTER BE RIGHT BEHIND ME!!!!

07-07-2010, 08:17 AM	#2
captnjack Danielle's Imaginary Boyfriend Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 3rd rock from the sun Posts: 818	Get well soon Laranger!!! __________________ But in your dreams whatever they may be Dream a little dream of me

07-07-2010, 07:28 PM	#6
YetAnotherDave Danielle's Biggest Fan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 393	Get well soon laranger. __________________ Just call me Y A D, it's shorter - and none of the YetAnotherDave's on Google is me !!

07-07-2010, 07:37 PM	#7
DWM222 Danielle's Biggest Fan Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 478	From one old Colorado guy to another..Hope you get well soon laranger __________________ Have I ever lied to you....That you know of?

07-07-2010, 07:46 PM	#8
danielle_ftv Administrator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 3,321	Aww...I hope it's nothing serious. Sending out good thoughts and wishes to Laranger. I hope he gets well soon. __________________ XOXO Danielle FTV

07-07-2010, 12:25 PM	#3
Anoree Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,015	I hope Laranger is up and out of the hospital soon.

07-07-2010, 04:25 PM	#4
e83sOHpFYv Danielle's Biggest Fan Join Date: May 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 383	Get well soon!!!! All The Best, e83

07-07-2010, 07:24 PM	#5
T-bone Thomas Danielle's Biggest Fan Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 437	Get well soon Laranger.

07-07-2010, 07:57 PM	#9
tigger Danielle's Future Ex-Husband Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: out yonder way! Posts: 1,093	I just checked my e-mail and no news yet. all i know is he got up in the morning and couldn't breath so he called 911 and they admitted him after 5 hours in the ER. When i spoke to him on the phone a few days ago he sounded relay bad like he hada bad cold. If i hear any thing i will let ya all know. His son did say he was sitting up eating cold hospital food the night he had to go in so hopefully he will be good as new in no time. __________________ IF YOU SEE ME RUNNING YOU BETTER BE RIGHT BEHIND ME!!!!

07-07-2010, 08:44 PM	#10
mart Danielle's Only True Love Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Garden of England, Kent Posts: 2,189	So sorry hear about Laranger Tigger, hoping you get well soon Laranger!,thinking of yer mate! __________________ If You Don't Ask, You Don't Get

07-07-2010, 11:21 PM	#12
tigger Danielle's Future Ex-Husband Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: out yonder way! Posts: 1,093	Missy used her pull and got me Larangers room phone number so i gave him a call, he sounds bad, he has got in his words crud in his lungs. they have him on breathing treatments, its helping but it is a slow prosess. My phone went dead when i was talking to him so ill try to give him a call later. __________________ IF YOU SEE ME RUNNING YOU BETTER BE RIGHT BEHIND ME!!!!

07-07-2010, 11:33 PM	#13
Immortal In Love with Danielle Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Middle-of-nowhere, Wisconsin. Posts: 174	So sorry to hear Laranger is in the hospital, Hope you get well soon. We need you here. __________________ аемб еру ыучшуые цщьут щт еру штеуктуе! Wir lieben euch Danielle!

07-08-2010, 12:09 AM	#14
Raymond Danielle's Biggest Fan Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 415	Damn, I hope he gets better soon. __________________ Follow FTVGirls on Twitter and Join the FTVGirls Facebook Fan Page

07-08-2010, 12:47 AM	#15
grande351 Danielle's Imaginary Boyfriend Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 876	My best wishes to Laranger for a speedy recovery! Thank you for keeping us up to date on his condition Tigger.

07-08-2010, 06:26 AM	#16
ugo Danielle's Future Ex-Husband Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,556	Get well soon Laranger __________________ Hope,Love,sex : Loving a Girl.

07-08-2010, 08:27 AM	#17
captnjack Danielle's Imaginary Boyfriend Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 3rd rock from the sun Posts: 818	thanks for the update tigger __________________ But in your dreams whatever they may be Dream a little dream of me

07-08-2010, 11:03 PM	#18
tigger Danielle's Future Ex-Husband Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: out yonder way! Posts: 1,093	Spoke with Laranger a while ago he is doing better he will be comming home in the morning. He sounded a lot better when i spoke with him. __________________ IF YOU SEE ME RUNNING YOU BETTER BE RIGHT BEHIND ME!!!!

07-09-2010, 01:30 AM	#19
eastbill Danielle's Biggest Fan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 283	Laranger.. hope you are up to speed soon.

07-09-2010, 01:50 AM	#20
Enigma Danielle's Biggest Fan Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 272	Get well soon pal so you can come back an ban me lol

07-09-2010, 05:08 PM	#22
geolarson2 Danielle's Imaginary Boyfriend Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 512	Glad to hear Laranger's on the mend & on the way home (sweet home!).

07-09-2010, 06:13 PM	#23
mart Danielle's Only True Love Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Garden of England, Kent Posts: 2,189	Sounds good Tigger, i knew Laranger was a tough ol boot!. He'll be back on his feet in no time. __________________ If You Don't Ask, You Don't Get

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laranger Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 604	Man it's good to be back home and get on here to visit with ol' friends, thanks everyone. __________________ Mediocrity shouldn't be a life goal.

07-11-2010, 07:38 PM	#32
mart Danielle's Only True Love Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Garden of England, Kent Posts: 2,189	Are there such things as free hospitals in American for the not so well off?. I'm sure as there is here, as the poorer groups of people, who just wouldn't be able to afford medical bills. __________________ If You Don't Ask, You Don't Get

07-12-2010, 05:10 AM	#35
captnjack Danielle's Imaginary Boyfriend Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 3rd rock from the sun Posts: 818	Sorry tigger I did misunderstand your post. You are correct. What I should have said is...if the condition is non life threatening and you are uninsured the hospital will require you to make arrangements for payment of services before you are treated. __________________ But in your dreams whatever they may be Dream a little dream of me

07-12-2010, 07:38 PM	#36
mart Danielle's Only True Love Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Garden of England, Kent Posts: 2,189	Thanks Geo, found your post interesting. __________________ If You Don't Ask, You Don't Get