Danielle at Kink.com

[Joe]

Danielle,

Have you ever considered doing something at Kink.com? They own the Armory in San Francisco and use it for various BDSM sites. Sites like FuckingMachines.com, WhippedAss.com and others. All of the girls who go on there report having fantastic experiences, so if you have any submissive fantasies, this is the place to experience them.

I think that it would be fantastic to see Danielle spend a day there to explore her submissive side. According to their model info page, you can sign up for anything from full penetrative sex to really softcore stuff and everything in between. I personally belong to several sites and watch the videos a lot. I think you should at least visit them and see what it looks like.

You can visit all of the sites for free and you don't have to actually buy any of the videos. They have all of the information posted on the web, including how to become a model. There are just as many gay sites as straight sites, although I only visit the straight and lesbian sites.

Of course, if you have never actually fantasized about anything like B&D, then I guess you shouldn't go.

/Joe

[Anoree]

Hello Joe,

if I may answer ...

Danielle revealed in her Journal that she always loved to watch the kink.com trailers and here that she might want to do some of that stuff.

In her video logs and webcam shows she said, though, that it wouldn't be wise for her to shoot for another website, since she has her own site working for her.

[Geezer]

Well, Danielle did spend a few days in San Francisco and the Bay Area recently. MAYBE she has a "secret project" in the works???

[Flinch]

Like Anoree said I don't think she would want to chance ruining a good thing. If she did shoot for kink. Would love to see her shoot for Ultimate Surrender and possibly take on Anne.

[Joe]

What could possibly be the problems with shooting for Kink? They are completely independent and shooting for them cannot possibly impact DanielleFTV at all. Lots of people shoot for Kink and have their own web site. Kylie Ireland shoots for EverythingButt and she has her own active web site and her own career in Porn. There is no problem with shooting for Kink and running your own seperate web site except completely imaginary problems in your head.

Danielle should definitely go to SFa nd visit the Armory and shoot for FuckingmMachines They are the lowest level of BDSM possible. They don't even tie up the models. Not like DeviceBondage or WhippedAss. They only do fuckingmachines and no one else has to even be involved.

The model release and prices are all available at the main kink web site. You can have any lawer you want look at the release and negotiate whatever deal you are comfotable with. There is no reason that modeling at kink will ever negatively impact on DanielleFTV at all.

/Joe

[YetAnotherDave]

Whilst I too would love Danielle to shoot with kink and have PM'd her about this and related matters in the past, personally I don't think this is going to happen overnight or even in the short term but I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it Joe.

Give the girl time, I don't think she'll mind me saying that she is still fairly new in the business and still testing what she's comfortable with, although ever ready to experiment !!

[danielle_ftv]

Originally Posted by Geezer

Well, Danielle did spend a few days in San Francisco and the Bay Area recently. MAYBE she has a "secret project" in the works???

LOL...no I wish. I remembered about The Armory like the day I was leaving SF. Felt bad that I didn't even get a chance to look at the outside.

[danielle_ftv]

I am completely comfortable shooting with Kink.com. I've talked about shooting with them before, later on in the future. I personally don't think it's all that smart to shoot with competitor websites in the very beginning of your career....so I probably won't be shooting with them anytime soon. When I do decide to shoot with them I would love to shoot for their Hogtied, ******* Machines, Wired *****, Whipped ***, Water Bondage, Sex and Submission, and definitely The Training of O sites...and maybe the Ultimate Surrender and Everything Butt sites. I'm not so sure about the Device Bondage site. Personally I don't want to have any BDSM devices in my mouth. I don't particularly care for the weird breast pumps or ***** pumps either...so I most likely wouldn't use those either. And I would want the dominator to be someone I'm attracted to....and trust me, it makes a world of a difference between a great shoot and an amazing shoot.

[Joe]

Originally Posted by danielle_ftv

I am completely comfortable shooting with Kink.com. I've talked about shooting with them before, later on in the future. I personally don't think it's all that smart to shoot with competitor websites in the very beginning of your career.

I don't know where you get this idea. Many girls who shoot on Kink advertise their websites during their shoots. During the Q&A period, they often tell us what their personal website is so we can go check it out. The Kink people do not try to stop them or even edit the sessions, as you would expect if they had a problem with it.

Personally, I think that you would do well in a "Training of O" shoot. Since the girl has to spend a week there, the results would be fantastic to watch and then see how it affected you in future shoots. I think you would be quite changed and I'm not sure you really understand the possibilities.

?Also, just seeing you in Hogtied or Device Bondage would be fantastic. I don't understand why you would go for Hogtied but be appresensive about Device Bondage. At Hogtied you are likely to get f--ed while tied up, but at Device Bondage, the most that will happen is to have a f--ing machine do you. Of course, maybe you just want an excuse to get f--ed by a real c--k instead of a f--ing machine...

I really want to encourage you to sign up for a visit to the Armory.

/Joe

[Anoree]

Originally Posted by Joe

I think you would be quite changed

I think that's a big point against shooting for kink.com right now.
A lot of us like Danielle the way she is right now. If she'd come back from SF completely changed, she could loose quite a few followers. (Not me, I'll stay with her until the site closes and beyond. )

There has been a discussion early on the forum about Danielle adding hardcore to her site. There were quite a few members who said they wouldn't like hardcore at all. I think they could be alienated if Danielle shot with kink at this stage.

Danielle wants to slowly heat up her hardcore scenes, which I think is a good approach. If you see her first scenes for FTV or her own site, you'll see that she comes from being a very shy girl and changed a lot already. It is a pleasure to see her development.

So, while it's nice to give her hints of what she could do, please let Danielle decide what and who she shoots with at her own pace. I think that would be more rewarding to her - and us - in the end.

[Joe]

Originally Posted by Anoree

So, while it's nice to give her hints of what she could do, please let Danielle decide what and who she shoots with at her own pace. I think that would be more rewarding to her - and us - in the end.

Where did you possibly come up with me forcing Danielle to do anything. I live nowhere near Phoenix, and I have no control over what Danielle does. It was a simple suggestion to explore the site and decide on her own. I think that she has the capability of doing that, expecially since there is plenty of frree content there and she can even look at the full model releases. Nothing hidden there. Adults can make up their own minds.

As for me, I would be interested in seeing Danielle explore more hardcore content. Bring it on I say.

/Joe

[Texasdrake]

Think it would be great if Danielle do bondage on HER own site.I had to admit I did have a membership with Kink.com due I have a dom side in me.As far as Danielle doing Kink.com I Wouldn't be too crazy about it.Seems like some of the guys can be too rough on the girls and don't want Danielle walking away from there with marks on her that would take awhile to get rid of.

[danielle_ftv]

Well since I bruise easy I'm sure that I would end up walking away with marks on me....but that's okay, they are good marks . I don't think shooting with Kink.com would change me all that much, it would just satisfy my BDSM urge for a while and show me what I like and don't like in BDSM. I would like to add BDSM on my website...but I have to find someone who has experience doing it (and that seems to be a tough endeavor right now.)

BTW I've bought quite a few things to use when I do find someone to shoot BDSM scenes with me including whips and Japanese melting candles (apparently they are supposed to be perfect to melt on your body.)

[Texasdrake]

Well I'm doing a Bondage/BDSM shoot with a model at the end of June.Was hoping it would closely Rivel that of Kink.com but its going end up be alittle tamer due to the model. Oh well guess I just have to find someone like Danielle or Brooke Lee Adam. (LOL)
I just gotten in the mail the stuff I'm going to use..all Purple bondage gear

[100% AGAVE]

Yep, Would love to see Danielle on a kink.com site. Someday hope we will.

[Texasdrake]

Even though Danielle and I had talked about doing a shoot involving a Wood Nymph theme and body paint.Since I found out we both also have a common interest in BDSM.Would love getting together to do a BDSM pic set/video if it was ever possible.

[dave]

Hey Danielle,

How are you??


Its been i while since the last post on this topic, have you thought anymore about shooting for Kink.com???

[danielle_ftv]

Honestly not really. It's something I will do in the future when I decide to shoot not only for my website but for others too. But right now, probably not.

[frederickus]

Originally Posted by danielle_ftv

Honestly not really. It's something I will do in the future when I decide to shoot not only for my website but for others too. But right now, probably not.

Lovely Danielle, I'm sending you a pm about BDSM.

[rlf01]

Originally Posted by danielle_ftv

Well since I bruise easy I'm sure that I would end up walking away with marks on me....but that's okay, they are good marks . I don't think shooting with Kink.com would change me all that much, it would just satisfy my BDSM urge for a while and show me what I like and don't like in BDSM. I would like to add BDSM on my website...but I have to find someone who has experience doing it (and that seems to be a tough endeavor right now.)

BTW I've bought quite a few things to use when I do find someone to shoot BDSM scenes with me including whips and Japanese melting candles (apparently they are supposed to be perfect to melt on your body.)

Well, there it is. Something I proposed some time back in a different thread. I was nearly drawn and quartered by the group for my suggestion that you do some "light" bondage play. You mentioned then that you had some toys. Apparently the collection has grown. I like it. I have subscribed to Kink.com sites and FTV on and off for years. They both have their place. I am ECSTATIC that you give serious consideration to shooting for Kink. Device isn't as bad as it looks. Check out the newer stuff that Matt is doing. And Hogtied is a different place with Lochai in control. These two sites are equal in what they do. They differ only in the method. I think that these two places would more than satisfy your BDSM fantasies.
Further, I do not believe that shooting for them would damage the integrity of your site. Actually I believe the opposite.
Thank you for validating, once and for all, my proposal.

[danielle_ftv]

I shall think about shooting with them. Ultimately it's up to what FTVRob thinks. I also want to be in PERFECT shape and have my tattoos completely off before I shoot with them.

[YetAnotherDave]

Originally Posted by danielle_ftv

I shall think about shooting with them. Ultimately it's up to what FTVRob thinks. I also want to be in PERFECT shape and have my tattoos completely off before I shoot with them.

Well that would mean that it won't be for a while (re tattoos), but you must shoot with them sometime and you don't have to sign up to every type of BDSM on offer anyway, although HT might be nice as would FM and WP.

(@Danielle, I see you haven't grabbed that link btw, it's up till end of August.)

[geolarson2]

Originally Posted by danielle_ftv

I shall think about shooting with them. Ultimately it's up to what FTVRob thinks. I also want to be in PERFECT shape and have my tattoos completely off before I shoot with them.

I imagine that means the earliest you'd consider working with Acworth & co. is sometime next year. I also imagine that with your site reaching its 2d birthday (premium that is) next Jan., Rob might be persuaded to letting you test the waters with something like F-ing Machines and see how you & the members react to sharing you with another high-profile company. It might turn some of your members away, but then again it might bring some to your site as well. And you may learn something more about yourself in the process.

[danielle_ftv]

Originally Posted by YetAnotherDave

Well that would mean that it won't be for a while (re tattoos), but you must shoot with them sometime and you don't have to sign up to every type of BDSM on offer anyway, although HT might be nice as would FM and WP.

(@Danielle, I see you haven't grabbed that link btw, it's up till end of August.)

If it's a link you sent to me through PM I haven't checked or answered my private messages in like a week and a half.

[YetAnotherDave]

Originally Posted by danielle_ftv

If it's a link you sent to me through PM I haven't checked or answered my private messages in like a week and a half.

err it was actually sent around Halloween time ! You did say you were downloading it but it hasn't registered on the system. I think other things happened and you might have forgotten. I can resend in PM it's just that I might have to delete it soon.

[neukgraag]

Originally Posted by danielle_ftv

Well since I bruise easy I'm sure that I would end up walking away with marks on me....but that's okay, they are good marks . I don't think shooting with Kink.com would change me all that much, it would just satisfy my BDSM urge for a while and show me what I like and don't like in BDSM. I would like to add BDSM on my website...but I have to find someone who has experience doing it (and that seems to be a tough endeavor right now.)

BTW I've bought quite a few things to use when I do find someone to shoot BDSM scenes with me including whips and Japanese melting candles (apparently they are supposed to be perfect to melt on your body.)

That is just it, Danielle, it is hard to find someone with enough experience, but at Kink they are very experienced and they are professional. It is a great place to try out BDSM. What about applying for Modelcast? That is like a casting couch. Then you can experiment a little with some light bondage and you can meet the people and see what you think of it all before committing yourself.

[danielle_ftv]

Originally Posted by YetAnotherDave

err it was actually sent around Halloween time ! You did say you were downloading it but it hasn't registered on the system. I think other things happened and you might have forgotten. I can resend in PM it's just that I might have to delete it soon.

Oops...I think you will have to resend it to me.

[YetAnotherDave]

Originally Posted by danielle_ftv

Oops...I think you will have to resend it to me.

Consider it done.