View Full Version : Another Disappointment from a contributor shoot
FTVGirls_Rob
02-28-2010, 04:26 AM
On the side, I have some photographers (mostly nubiles.net shooters) who shadow me and I try to teach them a little about how to shoot for FTV. Some who have been learning for years. I just got another contributor shoot today of pornstar Casey Chase (she's a cute one for FTV) but the work was way sub-par for FTV. He tried shooting photo & video under natural light, and it became a disaster.
My point: It seems like no matter how hard I try, there simply isn't anyone who will emulate my work successfully (without my members shooting me in the head).
So I'm sending the content back -- I don't want another 'failed' contributor shoot on the site, only to hear people complain :(
Woody
02-28-2010, 06:24 AM
Hi Rob!
Can i ask? Who do you think could emulate your work successfully if you could have anyone? Maybe Alex DeLarge from ALS?
I was not familiar with Casey Chase. she looks like a great girl for FTV. I hope you will bring her own to FTV at some point.
grande351
02-28-2010, 01:44 PM
It's a shame it didn't work out Rob. Your style is pretty unique and (obviously) hard to duplicate. Maybe you need to train someone from the ground up? Someone with little or no experience wouldn't have developed any bad habits or have preconcieved ideas. You could "mold" them into exactly what you need.
Here's a pic of Casey in case anyone is too lazy to Google her. (LOL :D) I admit, I've never heard of Casey either, but she's a real cutie. Maybe Rob should shoot her himself?
http://images9.fotki.com/v449/photos/2/41642/7736360/CaseyChase-vi.jpg
Internetvidz
02-28-2010, 03:23 PM
Another girl that has done everything already, just google her and you can see she has been on a host of sites and done everything from soft to hardcore......
She does not belong on FTV....or at least not in my opinion.
FTVGirls_Rob
02-28-2010, 03:49 PM
Hi Rob!
Can i ask? Who do you think could emulate your work successfully if you could have anyone? Maybe Alex DeLarge from ALS?
Alex runs his own competing site, he wouldn't shoot for me lol. Same goes for other shooter/owners like Ron Harris, etc...
Woody
02-28-2010, 04:00 PM
Casey Chase!! I would like to see her on FTV!!
I know you Softcore guys & Rob don't like the Hardcore stuff!!
But how i see it is if she was on FTV then she would be shot like a FTV Model!!
What she does on other sites for me does not matter!! But i like Hardcore and Softcore!! But i know you Softcore guys might like it that she's done Hardcore!!
Woody
02-28-2010, 04:07 PM
Alex runs his own competing site, he wouldn't shoot for me lol. Same goes for other shooter/owners like Ron Harris, etc...
Yeah i know that Alex has his on website! But what i was asking is do you think he could emulate your work successfully without your members shooting you in the head?
I like when established porn stars appear on FTV because its shows them in a new light and some are very sexy... once they drop the over the top P.A. (Porn Acting) and they are usually are more comfortable in front of the camera. capri, stephanie sweet, etc were all great updates.
Woody
03-01-2010, 03:18 AM
I agree!! At the end of the day most porn is fake!! All models are just playing a role for us guys at home to enjoy!
If thats playing a role in Hardcore Gonzo films or playing a role on here for FTV!
And by what i mean playing a role on FTV! Well how many girls do you know who gets naked and masturbates in public with a camera guy there filming it!!
That's why in this industry they are called performers.
FTVfanatic
03-01-2010, 08:03 AM
Well how many girls do you know who gets naked and masturbates in public with a camera guy there filming it!!
That's why in this industry they are called performers.
Well, not that many.
However, isn't everybody acting at least some of the time anyways? I mean, who would act and talk at work the same way than he/she would when spending a night out with friends. It's the social context that influences individual role and behavior.
Just Me
03-01-2010, 08:44 AM
I am just glad its was not me Rob sent the content back too.
FTVfanatic
03-01-2010, 08:07 PM
I am just glad its was not me Rob sent the content back too.
And how could he? You're as close to Rob in the skill as it gets.
ChorniyVolk
03-01-2010, 10:50 PM
Another girl that has done everything already, just google her and you can see she has been on a host of sites and done everything from soft to hardcore......
She does not belong on FTV....or at least not in my opinion.
Stop whining, having your own tastes and such is fine, we all do, but trying to turn the site into just what you want instead of letting it be for everyone isn't cool.
And before anyone gets started, having an "opinion" is one thing, but constantly repeating it everywhere is something else. You don't see me spamming every thread asking for more foot content, do you? I ask in the right places where it's relevant.
Internetvidz
03-02-2010, 03:07 AM
Thanks for the tip.....I will comment as I feel....
Woody
03-02-2010, 03:11 AM
So Rob! Are you going to shoot Casey Chase yourself then?
Just Me
03-03-2010, 06:57 AM
if she is good enough for FTV i will shoot her no problem.
Natal
03-03-2010, 08:41 AM
It's a shame it didn't work out Rob. Your style is pretty unique and (obviously) hard to duplicate. Maybe you need to train someone from the ground up? Someone with little or no experience wouldn't have developed any bad habits or have preconcieved ideas. You could "mold" them into exactly what you need.
Here's a pic of Casey in case anyone is too lazy to Google her. (LOL :D) I admit, I've never heard of Casey either, but she's a real cutie. Maybe Rob should shoot her himself?
http://images9.fotki.com/v449/photos/2/41642/7736360/CaseyChase-vi.jpg
Heh...that is a wierd picture, the angle makes her head look freakishly large :p
FTVGirls_Rob
03-03-2010, 04:11 PM
Problem is nowadays most photography in porn relies on photoshop and tons of post processing (softening, sharpening, brightening, enhancing colors, etc etc...) to make their work look as they are. So what happens is when a photographer submits work to me, they automatically assume that is what I would do as well, so their work may be sub-par, but it will end up looking better. Whether its met-art, twistys, ron harris, etc... they all go through a pretty heavy duty post production. I haven't done it yet, and really don't want to go there.
The image you see here is a classic example
http://images9.fotki.com/v449/photos/2/41642/7736360/CaseyChase-vi.jpg
Woody
03-03-2010, 04:11 PM
FTV or SDA!! As long as someone shoots her!!
Pornstar or hardcore, I don't care! I love seeing naked girls masturbating outdoors. If the shoot is sub-par then just add a link for members that troll the message board with a warning.
What about bringing on Ed Fox as a contributor?:D
tigger
03-03-2010, 05:38 PM
It looks like her photo was placed over the tree shot.
Texasdrake
03-03-2010, 08:27 PM
On the side, I have some photographers (mostly nubiles.net shooters) who shadow me and I try to teach them a little about how to shoot for FTV. Some who have been learning for years. I just got another contributor shoot today of pornstar Casey Chase (she's a cute one for FTV) but the work was way sub-par for FTV. He tried shooting photo & video under natural light, and it became a disaster.
My point: It seems like no matter how hard I try, there simply isn't anyone who will emulate my work successfully (without my members shooting me in the head).
So I'm sending the content back -- I don't want another 'failed' contributor shoot on the site, only to hear people complain :(
It be hard to find anyone to do the same high quality work you do.Even when I do a shoot I try doing it the same way.Only way you can get another person to do the same work is cloning yourself. :D
specialk
03-04-2010, 11:55 PM
Just an FYI about Casey Chase, there are many webcam vids of her under the name 'Dez' - everything from her masturbating to drinking her urine to having sex with guys and one with a girl. I think there was one showing her cutting her arms with a razor as well. She's damaged goods in my eyes.
Texasdrake
03-05-2010, 01:10 AM
Hmmm she looks alot like this "Dez" I had supposely talked to last year. if this is the same Dez I knew then "Dez" is short for her real last name.If she the same person then her real first name is Ashley and she is supposely a ex girlfriend/lover of a female friend I know.
Well gotten a hold of the friend and sent her a short clip of Casey Chase/Kasey Chase and she said they're close but not the same girls
Woody
03-06-2010, 07:00 PM
I'm not a member of ALS anymore but i just looked at there update page and Kacey Chase is coming soon on ALS!!
I might have to rejoin again!! ;-)
But i would still love to see miss Chase on FTV!!
Woody
03-07-2010, 04:52 PM
I know maybe i'm not suppose to say this but i've just rejoined ALS and looking at the shots of some of the pics of Kacey Chase i've got to say she's looking amazing in them!!
I know some members might not want to see her on FTV because she has done Hardcore but i would still love to see her on FTV!! Please!!
Just Me
03-08-2010, 08:49 AM
FTV or SDA!! As long as someone shoots her!!
Not to turn This forum into an SDA thread, but I am trying to avoid shooting and updating my site with the same girls as FTV out of respect for both sites.
Trying keep it all as unique as possible.
Woody
03-08-2010, 07:13 PM
I just would like to see her on a outdoor shoot!! If FTV or SDA don't want to do it than by the sound of things maybe ALS will be!!
So yeah once a model has been on one website maybe the other websites don't really want to shoot the same model on there own sites!
Every site wants a new model for the first time to be seen on there site first i guess!
I can respect that!
Woody
03-18-2010, 04:25 AM
Hey i know this is old news! But i've saw those wabcam vids of some girl called daz!! Jeez!! That girl does look alot like Kasay Chase!!
And the guy in the vids looks alot like Kasey's boyfriend from her myspace pics!!
So who knows man!!
TheDoctor
03-18-2010, 12:27 PM
Hey i know this is old news! But i've saw those wabcam vids of some girl called daz!! Jeez!! That girl does look alot like Kasay Chase!!
And the guy in the vids looks alot like Kasey's boyfriend from her myspace pics!!
So who knows man!!
What??? "DAX" is doing porn????:eek:
Anoree
03-18-2010, 12:45 PM
What??? "DAX" is doing porn????:eek:
Dax? Jadzia Dax, the Trill??
Oh, it seems we totally drifted off topic. :o
Woody
03-18-2010, 05:08 PM
What??? "DAX" is doing porn????:eek:
Still it was funny!! :)
FTVGirls_Rob
03-18-2010, 05:30 PM
Terry Farell I was in love with
*high fives rob* me too! only reason why i would watch DS9
Natal
03-19-2010, 12:36 AM
Dax? Jadzia Dax, the Trill??
Oh, it seems we totally drifted off topic. :o
No, it was one of the earlier Dax ;)
TheDoctor
03-19-2010, 12:42 PM
LOL... a little geeky joke turned into the thread's new topic. Maybe the main reason I love this forum. ;)
rlf01
03-28-2010, 12:47 AM
Terry Farell I was in love with
Personally, I have still have a twitch for "seven of nine" AKA: Jeri Ryan
FTVGirls_Rob
03-28-2010, 01:20 AM
Jeri Ryan is too pornstarish for me.
Raymond
03-28-2010, 01:35 AM
I agree. She looked hot as Seven of Nine but without that uniform she just looks like a cheap hooker dressed up in nice clothes.
Keiran
04-04-2010, 09:27 AM
On the side, I have some photographers (mostly nubiles.net shooters) who shadow me and I try to teach them a little about how to shoot for FTV. Some who have been learning for years. I just got another contributor shoot today of pornstar Casey Chase (she's a cute one for FTV) but the work was way sub-par for FTV. He tried shooting photo & video under natural light, and it became a disaster.
My point: It seems like no matter how hard I try, there simply isn't anyone who will emulate my work successfully (without my members shooting me in the head).
So I'm sending the content back -- I don't want another 'failed' contributor shoot on the site, only to hear people complain :(
Rob,
Sorry to hear you are not having any luck with your current contributors. I would be interested in collaborating with you and shooting some material for submission. I've been shooting for several years already and you are welcome to view a few samples of my work here if interested: "http://www.modelmayhem.com/448664"
Link modified by Moderator
I'm down in the Phoenix area at the moment so feel free to drop me a line.
Regards, Keiran
FTVGirls_Rob
04-04-2010, 02:10 PM
Hey Kieran, good photography is only the tip of the iceberg -- its the video that most contributors end up pooping on. I've given up on contributor shoots.
Personally, I have still have a twitch for "seven of nine" AKA: Jeri Ryan
It was revealed that six years previously, Jeri had accused Jack Ryan of asking her to perform sexual acts with him in public, and in sex clubs in New York, New Orleans, and Paris. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling." Jack Ryan denied these allegations. Although Jeri Ryan refused to comment on the matter during the campaign, the document disclosure led Jack Ryan to withdraw his candidacy, clearing the way for Barack Obama to win the seat.
OH boy! She would be a hot FTV update. Or FTSBR! First time shot by Rob update.
Sorry about getting off topic.
Natal
04-04-2010, 09:49 PM
Seeing that sh'e 42, with a couple of kids and a relatively successfull career, I would guess that the chances of that happening are south of zero.
rlf01
04-11-2010, 12:09 AM
I agree. She looked hot as Seven of Nine but without that uniform she just looks like a cheap hooker dressed up in nice clothes.
I have a whole roll of quarters in anticipation.
She's not a pristine 18 year old without so much as a freckle. She is a gorgeous mature woman with a body that same 18 year old would kill for. And, as far as I can prove, natural.
rlf01
04-11-2010, 12:11 AM
Jeri Ryan is too pornstarish for me.
Would you shoot Melinda Clarke if the opportunity arose?
TheDoctor
04-11-2010, 01:20 AM
Would you shoot Melinda Clarke if the opportunity arose?
... Or Melinda and "Capri (http://www.ftvgirls.com/mod2009/capri.html)" together :rolleyes:. Yes, across-the-Bajoran-wormhole off-topic again. LOL.
kaseychase
04-28-2010, 04:19 AM
For those of you who haven't figured it out yet, I AM Dez as well (Desire' is my first name). Most of the webcam vids mentioned under that name can be considered child pornography since it was done at the age of 16. Sooo, I highly suggest NOT downloading it :P
I admit that I overacted a lot when I first got into the industry and began filming scenes, but since, I've matured and learned to be more comfortable with crew members. I can let go of the fake/porn-like modeling and now I the ability to have real orgasms on cam :)
Every photographer I've worked with LOVES my natural beauty and asks me to come back again for shooting. I completely respect your opinions, and if I'm not the type of girl you guys want to shoot, I won't take it the wrong way.
If you want to view recent, NATURAL photos - take a look at my profile on x-art: LINK REMOVED BY MODERATOR.-Kasey
PM kaseychase to obtain link.
For those of you who haven't figured it out yet, I AM Dez as well (Desire' is my first name). Most of the webcam vids mentioned under that name can be considered child pornography since it was done at the age of 16. Sooo, I highly suggest NOT downloading it :P
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One why would you do that at 16? Why would you tell us? How do I know you're 18 now? You lied once... So many more girls out there that are 18, I would rather pass. But it's not my site and you are cute.
Woody
04-28-2010, 04:13 PM
The work Kasey has done on X-art is really good!! I think if you saw Kasey on X-art first then you would want her to shoot for FTV!!
She's right aswell!! Kasey has matured into one beautiful young woman!
I would love to see Kasey on FTV!
FTVGirls_Rob
04-28-2010, 09:26 PM
Hey Kasey, if you read this, Dean said that he couldn't finish your re-shoot or something like that. Is he telling the truth or is he lying like every other contributor after my money?
TJHooker
04-29-2010, 04:00 PM
The work Kasey has done on X-art is really good!! I think if you saw Kasey on X-art first then you would want her to shoot for FTV!!
I would love to see Kasey on FTV!
Kasey has done some nice work on Ron Harris's site and ALS too. Bring her to Phoenix! :cool:
TJHooker
04-29-2010, 04:03 PM
Hey Kieran, good photography is only the tip of the iceberg -- its the video that most contributors end up pooping on. I've given up on contributor shoots.Didn't you say that a couple years ago?
Woody
04-29-2010, 04:10 PM
Her first vid come out on ALS last week!! It was a good 1 too!!
And i'm with you on this one TJ!!
Bring her to Phoenix!!!! :-)
Just Me
05-04-2010, 02:35 AM
Hey Kasey, if you read this, Dean said that he couldn't finish your re-shoot or something like that. Is he telling the truth or is he lying like every other contributor after my money?
Oh wow.. I can really go here..... but I will not
FTVGirls_Rob
05-04-2010, 06:11 PM
So am I going to ever get back the $10,000 I loaned you when you were in financial trouble eddie?
(this is after death threats from you and such I would get for over a year to me & danielle in 2008).
Ah, the things I have to deal with by being in this business.
Woody
05-04-2010, 06:38 PM
The porn business is and always will be at some point a sleazy business to work in!!
So am I going to ever get back the $10,000 I loaned you?
It's in the mail.
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